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Re: EADA "The Ruling Body"


JohnBull Joined on 15 Jan 2009 Total posts: 19	Re: EADA "The Ruling Body" Thursday, 15 January 2009 10:25 On the EADA forum I read that EADA were The Ruling Body for English Dancing and it was hoped they would not leave the British Dance Council. Why do people never think before making nonsensical observations. What would be the consequences if they did decide they were the Ruling Body and walkout the BDC? Well first the Dance Promoters Association could decide they will not police EADA registrations and possibly only accept entries from WDC Am League or BDF Registered Amateurs. Unless EADA went into Promoting in a big way its members would have few events in which to compete. BDC Adjudicators could decide not to provide their services at EADA events. BDC Scrutineers might do similar. BDC coaches might decide to only work with non EADA couples. It goes on and on. EADA might very quickly find although it was the ruling body it had no one to rule. Amateurs and Professionals need each other and need to work for the mutual benefit of each other, Whilst the BDC might not be perfect it is way better than the alternatives. It has always been recognised as the governing body of dance for the United Kingdom and the IOC cannot overturn that and expect to remain credible..
propro Joined on 05 Jan 2009 Total posts: 71	Re: EADA "The Ruling Body" Thursday, 15 January 2009 12:56 This is precisely the ludicrous situation which IOC recognition of IDSF created. The IOC in total ignorance of the situation throughout the world made decisions which are against the interests of dancesport and those involved and now do not have the courage to admit "we were wrong". The IDSF promises it will respect "local conditions" but of course has no intention of honouring that promise. So far as the UK is concerned it is a tragic joke if anyone believes the EADA Chairman could be accepted as the leader of UK dancesport. A large portion of the EADA membership do not take the man seriously never mind about the Professional and outside world. I smile everytime I think of the President of the IPDSC having to take orders from the EADA chairman - which is precisely the situation IDSF have created within their little IDSF/IPDSC world. There he is thinking he is King of the World and playing 2nd string to an aged competitor who never achieved very much. Poetic justice
keggs Joined on 24 Dec 2005 Total posts: 406	Re: EADA "The Ruling Body" Saturday, 17 January 2009 22:56 Why do people on this forum always seek to denigrate, undermine, create division that isn't there and basically find fault in everything that's said or done, particularly by those heavily involved in making decisions? This last post is a disgrace. People like you make me sick. Whatever your views about what's happening in Dance Sport people give up their time to help get involved in necessary political organisations and in trying to solve the growing problems we have. No one takes on their roles knowing the job will be easy. If you think you can do better and have a vision which people will fall over to follow then stop carping and get yourself elected. If you can't then start making positive comments instead of attacking everyone and everything.
ricardo Joined on 19 Dec 2008 Total posts: 9	Re: EADA "The Ruling Body" Sunday, 18 January 2009 00:16 Because real dancers do not get involved, dancers just check the results, look for partners but stay out of politics not wanting to get involved. Perhaps they are wise wishing not to step into a trap that is already set for them. Those you describe carry chip ( rather a boulder ) on their shoulders and try unload their unhappiness onto others. It makes them feel important. Probably had a mother who mistreated them. I suspect , the people you write about are the same whom misery is a company, who find joy in belittling and being negative. Too bad. Life is a challenge without them. Fortunately they make half a dozen comments and stop just to continue as someone else.
propro Joined on 05 Jan 2009 Total posts: 71	Re: EADA "The Ruling Body" Sunday, 18 January 2009 06:54 keggs Just a quickie before I go, having just read the latest posts. It seems that the nastiness is resurfacing. If this is the case then I don't what the point in replying to anything on here. ---- keggs Why do people on this forum always seek to denigrate, undermine, create division that isn't there and basically find fault in everything that's said or done, particularly by those heavily involved in making decisions? This last post is a disgrace. People like you make me sick. . ---- peter I just wish it was as soon as possible and we can all spend our time on reading and writing about topics related to dancing and dancesport and not about how "the others" are right or wrong on this forum.. Peter ---- Keggs, Ricardo any comments relating to dance and the topic? I believe it is a disgrace that people are prepared to divide the dance world in pursuit of their own political ambition. I believe it is a disgrace that people constantly criticse and attack the long accepted ruling body in the UK the British Dance Council and instead promote the idea that the Amateurs should run the show. They claim this is "modernisation". Keggs you always criticise the BDC and your fellow Professionals whom you claim cannot be trusted and you have been telling everyone for years where they go wrong how does that link up with your words. keggs Whatever your views about what's happening in Dance Sport people give up their time to help get involved in necessary political organisations and in trying to solve the growing problems we have. No one takes on their roles knowing the job will be easy. If you think you can do better and have a vision which people will fall over to follow then stop carping and get yourself elected. ---- Do you not follow your own advice? Personally I agree with John Bull and that whilst not perfect the BDC is the best solution for the UK and the ruling authority. It may be slow but it has always attempted to work in the best interests of dancing and all parts of the dance world including those who first introduce people to the pleasures and benefits of dance whether as a social activity or more seriously. Amateurs and Pros are interdependent on each other.
marvin Joined on 19 Aug 2008 Total posts: 33	Re: EADA "The Ruling Body" Sunday, 18 January 2009 15:17 Is this worthy a reply ? Pick here, poke there, copy and paste what the smarter said, cannot be wrong, and if, can blame others ? Steve, I am wih you.
propro Joined on 05 Jan 2009 Total posts: 71	Re: EADA "The Ruling Body" Sunday, 18 January 2009 15:52 marvin Steve, I am wih you. ---- keggs Hi Marvin Interesting and well put.Regards Steve ----
propro Joined on 05 Jan 2009 Total posts: 71	Re: EADA "The Ruling Body" Sunday, 18 January 2009 15:58 marvin Is this worthy a reply ? Pick here, poke there, copy and paste what the smarter said, cannot be wrong, and if, can blame others ? Steve, I am wih you. ---- p-maker Sorry, you were saying ???? ----
keggs Joined on 24 Dec 2005 Total posts: 406	Re: EADA "The Ruling Body" Sunday, 18 January 2009 17:33 Thanks Marvin & Ricardo. I am beginning to wonder who are the people who are really dividing the dance world. Personally, I think it's those who carp and whine when one particular side does or says something they don't like. Dance Sport deserves more than this. Yes, I have criticised my fellow pros and for good reason. I do so so because the vast majority just accept the ways things have always been without a single thought to what is needed to be done to promote and make our sport more efficient. They are not interested. At least EADA does try and is doing well in the process. My youngest son has just started competing and will benefit from EADAs excellent support. What will he get from the BDC who some here are openly quite happy with that body being the governing body (despite legally they are not). Dance Sports both in Britain and elsewhere needs dragginng into the modern world whether traditionalists and whiners like it or not. EADA is trying to do this albeit with tremendous pressures put upon them by organisations that want to maintain an outdated and inefficient system which to use their words isn't broken so why fix it. Something doesn't need to be broken to see that it can be improved upon. As for the veiled attack on mateurs daring to run the show. They do successfully in many many sports. In fact, I surmise that most sports in the UK are amateur run and superbly for that matter. Just because someone is called a professional doesn't make them better. But we are fooled into believinmg this because that's what the dance world has been telling amateurs for years. And they just accept it.
keggs Joined on 24 Dec 2005 Total posts: 406	Re: EADA "The Ruling Body" Sunday, 18 January 2009 18:44 "It may be slow but it has always attempted to work in the best interests of dancing and all parts of the dance world including those who first introduce people to the pleasures and benefits of dance whether as a social activity or more seriously." Please give me one direct benefit the BDC has ever given to dancers (either amateur or professional) people who dance or compete. What are these best interests?