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Shell Joined on 22 May 2007 Total posts: 17	EADA relaunch website Monday, 01 June 2009 22:12 The English Amateur Dancesport Association Ltd. is pleased to announce the relaunch of their website www.eada.org.uk. The site is designed to act as a comprehensive resource for dancesport competitors of all ages and abilities - from beginner through to international competitor. The site offers improved functionality including an online calendar and search facility, as well as updated, easy-to-understand guides to the rules. We have designed useful information sections for members, parents and international competitors as well as enhancing our "About EADA" and "About dancesport" sections. We also have a discussion Forum where you can advertise for a partner or browse the items for sale. We have updated the photos on the site and EADA would like to thank Norman Large, Alec Myers, Morrison Findlay and Drew Rawcliffe in helping to provide photos for the site and thanks to their sponsors for their support. Also thanks to webmaster Ramen Sen for the new design. The update is part of EADA’s on-going commitment to improve communications with their members. Last year they launched E-Motion, a quarterly e-newsletter, a monthly column in Dancenews and an online competition feedback form. If you have any comments or suggestions about the site or EADA’s communications please contact feedback@eada.org.uk
onyourtoes Joined on 12 Feb 2007 Total posts: 657	Re: EADA relaunch website Monday, 08 June 2009 08:39 I along with many others visit the EADA website and have noted the new format which in some respects is an improvement. However the forums are a huge let down and "Censorship" seems to be the order of the day. Posts have been removed. Topics have been locked to prevent further discussion. It seems if it does not suit the EADA Heirachy it is going to be stifled. I would also point out that promises are not honoured. For instance with regard to IDSF supporting FIDS over Junior Blackpool EADA posted.. Our President has responded to this issue and is in negotiation with the various IDSF members concerned and would like to make this statement: EADA deplores the action of the FIDS in this matter and feels they should not involve themselves in a domestic affair. We will bring you more updates as we have them. There has been nothing but silence on the issue since then. Then there is another post from EADA Cervia Italian Open is non IDSF and we would not recommend that EADA members attend. I am going to post the wording from the IDSF on the Forum (sorry been a bit crazy busy in work recently), but just to let you know they wrote to EADA recently to say they will impose sanctions on those who compete/adjudictae at non IDSF comps and I believ they also stated that they won't refund travel/entry fee should someone who is "banned" turn up to compete in an IDSF registered event. The comps they cited were Assen and the Disneyland comp at the end of last year. Hence EADA would strongly advise that members do not compete in non IDSF events. You have also copied and pasted the Unregistered Events Page from the IDSF Web Site. If it is now EADA Policy that English couples may not compete in NON IDSF events (the vast majority of competitions in England) should this not be stated officially. If English couples wish to dance Cervia Italian Open, Assen Dutch Open, WDC Am League Open Worlds in Paris and the increasing number of WDC Am League events and ignore IDSF events why should they not do so? If EADA intend to suspend couples who compete in non IDSF events so they cannot compete in England should this not be stated. At the moment the situation is unclear but intimidatory. If EADA is more interested in promoting IDSF interests than English Dance development it should not have a monopoly on English Amateurs. If this is to be EADA policy then the BDF proposal that other bodies be allowed to register English Amateurs should immediately be instituted. It is out of order that EADA attempt to enforce the illegal actions of IDSF (by their own admission) on Englishdancers.
onyourtoes Joined on 12 Feb 2007 Total posts: 657	Re: EADA relaunch website Wednesday, 10 June 2009 19:35 Weird, very very weird. On the 1st April an EADA Committee member posted on the forum I would strongly advise (as Shell has previously advised) that EADA members do not attend a non-IDSF approved event. I have already advised one couple not to attend the Cervia Italian Open as it is not an IDSF approved event. Today the same person who has obviously read my comments posts something somewhat different When people write to me with regard to attending overseas competitions I will always advise them to consider not attending a non IDSF sanctioned event. I never say do not attend as it is always the prerogative of any dancer to choose which contests they want to dance in. I include in my replies that EADA itself will not take any action against anyone who competes in a non IDSF sanctioned event but I always give a warning that the IDSF may itself chose too. In other words, people may, of their own choice, decide to dance in a non IDSF sanctioned event but do not hold EADA responsible if the IDSF (or any other body) decide to take some form of disciplinary action. I suggest that what the member should be told is that if IDSF take action against the couple then EADA will give their full backing and support for legal action against IDSF. That is the only way to stop what IDSF themselves described as commercially and legally questionable sanctions. It was IDSF who wrote that these actions in their view contravened the Treaty of Rome and laws dealing with Restrictive Trade Practices.
Colinhn Joined on 11 Jun 2009 Total posts: 5	Re: EADA relaunch website Thursday, 11 June 2009 13:23 Dear onyourtoes, As the Committee member who read your comments above and replied on the EADA forum, I would like to respond briefly to your last post. You have selected one response from the EADA fourm, which was made on the 1st April shortly after I took on the role of EADA Travel Represenative, in order to make your point which I think is quite wrong of you. However, until the IDSF (or any other body) actually take any action against an EADA member, then there is no sense in EADA making any threats with regard to actions it may or may not undertake. When, and if, a situation arises then the full EADA Committee will discuss the course of action taken and decide the appropriate response to that body at that time.
onyourtoes Joined on 12 Feb 2007 Total posts: 657	Re: EADA relaunch website Thursday, 11 June 2009 14:19 Please explain how it was wrong of me to state your own words? I am delighted that you have now adopted a different opinion however would it not be better to state that EADA members are free to compete where they choose and they will have the full backing of EADA in the event of action being taken. Your words above but do not hold EADA responsible if the IDSF (or any other body) decide to take some form of disciplinary action. give the impression that EADA will abandon the member and say "we told you so" without a care as to the legalities involved. Surely EADA should hold that meeting now and decide exactly how they will respond first to the IDSF statement and second to any punitive action which might follow. After seems to be like fiddling whilst Rome burns. Surely the members have the right to know whether they will be supported or thrown to the lions. Surely EADA should inform IDSF that they have no wish to be involved in intimidatory action. Surely the members have the right to know if EADA will act against "commercially and legally questionable sanctions" and actions which contravene the Treaty of Rome and Restrictive Trade Practice Laws. Does EADA respect the law or not? Surely EADA should make it abundantly clear that any IDSF ban is pointless for couples who have no intention to dance IDSF events but might wish to dance in Cervia, Assen, Paris and the increasing number of WDC Am League events. Surely what EADA felt was wrong for Junior Blackpool they must believe is wrong for Cervia, Assen, etc. etc. There can be no double standards. As you should know one couple who were EADA members were on the banned list after Paris 2008 but they saved EADA blushes by announcing they were Professional and therefore the vindictive IDSF action was redundant. You should be prepared for this in the future. To put on the blinkers and say "we will wait" means that in the event of punitive action many many months will pass before the EADA Full Committee meet make a decision and then institute legal action and wait for the Court hearing and decision. Unless it is a life time ban it is certain that any period of suspension will have long passed and the couple will have no redress. To have a policy to protect your members and to make a statement that you will preserve their legal rights is NOT threatening any party. There is an EADA member who whilst dancing for another country has already tested their legal and human right to dance at Assen. EADA should be prepared to uphold previous legal decisions and give their full support if this person should again decide to dance Assen and this should be decided before not after.
spectator100 Joined on 07 Jan 2009 Total posts: 32	Re: EADA relaunch website Saturday, 13 June 2009 16:25 Colinhn. It is to your credit that you realised some reply was needed. May I say I too share the view that waiting for "after" is not the correct way. I hope you will forgive me if I quote your words :When people write to me with regard to attending overseas competitions I will always advise them to consider not attending a non IDSF sanctioned event. I never say do not attend as it is always the prerogative of any dancer to choose which contests they want to dance in. I include in my replies that EADA itself will not take any action against anyone who competes in a non IDSF sanctioned event but I always give a warning that the IDSF may itself chose too. a) Your words : I include in my replies that EADA itself will not take any action against anyone who competes in a non IDSF sanctioned event : This is a very clear statement that EADA do not consider the couple have committed any misdemeanour deserving of punitive action. As I understand it the couple need only inform EADA of their intention to compete in an event abroad. b) Your words : I never say do not attend as it is always the prerogative of any dancer to choose which contests they want to dance in : Absolutely 100% correct in fact it is both their human rights and their legal right so to do. This must be time for EADA to make a clear announcement that they will give their full backing to any member who is penalised for simply exercising their right to compete where they choose. Time for EADA to bite the bullet.
colinhn Joined on 11 Jun 2009 Total posts: 5	Re: EADA relaunch website Monday, 15 June 2009 12:48 spectator100. I agree that EADA members only need to contact me when they intend to compete abroad. All I can do is give the advice as I have previously posted. I do not have the authority to (and do not care too) make any sweeping statements with regard to EADA's positional standpoint particularly when one of dancesports international bodies is concerned and especially in these turbulent political times. Whether 'before, or 'after' the event is the best viewpoint to take is a good point. Is it best to create a potentially conflict situation with any governing body or wait to react if a situation arises? Is it best to put your head above the parapet just so it can be shot at? Hmmm. I’m sure people will have strong differing viewpoints on this. Some supportive and some critical, but, until further instructed by the EADA Committee, I will continue to give the same advice as I have been giving in the past few months. Oh, and by the way. The points above are not meant to start a discussion as they are points that I alone cannot answer.
spectator100 Joined on 07 Jan 2009 Total posts: 32	Re: EADA relaunch website Monday, 15 June 2009 13:01 colinhn I have to say with great regret and sorrow that your reply is one that no one can respect. It is simply evasive. A political ruse. The IDSF is more than happy to create as many explosive situations as it desires and EADA happily comply with their intimidation but are afraid to actually make a decision!! You evade the legal issues involved and yet the President of EADA is or was a member of the IDSF Legal Commission. If EADA are afraid to commit to supporting their members - who are forced into EADA by BDC without a choice - should EADA not now declare English dancers are freed to register with whomever they choose. I am sure that the BDF will happily make a statement of support. IDSF threaten EADA and the members and yet the EADA Committee are afraid to discuss and decide their response. Lets be very clear - EADA are making no threats they are simply responding to threats made against their members.
colinhn Joined on 11 Jun 2009 Total posts: 5	Re: EADA relaunch website Monday, 15 June 2009 14:30 spectator100. Whether my posting loses me respect with the people who read this forum is a matter that I will deal with. I think that people should respect the fact that I’m willing (and sometimes stupid enough) in attempting to respond to posts made on the various forums (sometimes to the consternation of my fellow committee members!). In fact, there are probably several people who are cringing at this very minute whilst reading these postings (sorry guys). As too being a political ruse, I wish I was so cleaver as to be able to instigate one. With the greatest of respect to you (as I try not to criticise what other people post) let's agree on a couple of things , you continue attacking EADA and the IDSF and I will keep doing my job to the best of my abilities whatever people think
onyourtoes Joined on 12 Feb 2007 Total posts: 657	Re: EADA relaunch website Monday, 15 June 2009 14:52 Please may I come in here- apologies. Colinhn you seem to be determined to evade all the points I raise. Your latest response is rather symptomatic of "Committee Egotism" - we are answerable to no one. Clearly the Mair Antoniette "let them eat cake" syndrome inflicts the EADA committee. Is it not your and theirt job to work for the good of the members and english dancing, to sit with the committee and make decisions in the very best interests of your members and then give them support when attacked? There is confusion in that you believe stating the obvious and the facts is "attacking." Far from it. Clarification is being sought based on the facts. IDSF are threatening EADA members - how do EADA intend responding? Do EADA believe in law, ? If so will they protect their members against IDSF threats? I have to conclude by saying that there cannot be a more pointed demonstration of the EADA committee attitude than your words colinhn think that people should respect the fact that I’m willing (and sometimes stupid enough) in attempting to respond to posts made on the various forums (sometimes to the consternation of my fellow committee members!). In fact, there are probably several people who are cringing at this very minute whilst reading these postings (sorry guys). ---- To reply to members and others is "stupid" ? Unbelievable. Let those other smug superior beings who believe they are above everyone cringe and cringe in shame they surely should..