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sambatogo Joined on 29 Aug 2007 Total posts: 280	Re: EADA relaunch website Friday, 19 June 2009 17:24 spectator100 How true is what you have just said? Totally!!
Elaine Joined on 28 Jan 2003 Total posts: 144	Re: EADA relaunch website Friday, 19 June 2009 18:51 I think that the whole question of EADA's stance over the IDSF bans needs to be put into context in terms of the number of their members that are likely to be effected and therefore who may or may not have strong feelings about this matter. Although I do believe that it is very important that EADA take into account the views of its members I would happily bet a pound or two that the vast majority of their members don't really give two hoots or have much of an opinion about decisions made by the IDSF or EADA in relation to the IDSF policies. I don't know how many members EADA actually has but the percentage of those members who wish to compete internationally in IDSF comps or who are honoured with an invitation to an IDSF World or European Championship must surely be very small in relation to the overall membership. We are very lucky in England in that we have enough competitions held here throughout each year that EADA members can compete on a regular basis without having the need to travel abroad to take part in IDSF events. Add the current economic climate and the cost of such jaunts along with the fact that restrictions on Amatuers teaching means that the majority of English Amatuers are truly that in every sense of the word, having to rely on having a day job or family financial backing to enable them to compete at all means that we have very few couples who actually travel internationally to participate in IDSF events. So at the end of the day I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to learn that the view of the majority of EADA members would be that they arn't the least bit interested in international politics and that if it dosn't effect them personally then why worry about it??
kevin Joined on 20 Jan 2003 Total posts: 29	Re: EADA relaunch website Friday, 19 June 2009 22:35 Firstly may I congratulate EADA's new webmaster (Shen? - that's rather close to Shan ;-)) on the excellent job he (she?) has done in modernising the EADA web site. For those who don't know, I was EADA's webmaster (and was asked by Piet Rullens to be the IDSF deputy webmaster just before I resigned due to irreconcilable differences with EADA's then Chairman and subsequently self-appointed President) when the web site was a fully dynamic web site as it is now but sadly wasn't for quite some time during the 'reign' of the previous (appointed by the President to his 'executive committee' with full voting rights) webmaster. As a firm advocate of open source software (and a PHP as well as ASP/ASP.NET developer) I'm particularly pleased to see that the new web site is managed using the Drupal CMS. I'm also particularly pleased to see that my 'legacy' to EADA still 'lives on' in the form of the EADA chart pages which are fully dynamically driven (using ASP) from a backend MS SQL Server database. It always satisfying for a web developer to see that code he wrote more than 7 years ago now is still reliably doing the job it was intended to do (I'm sure Zbysek will agree!!). I'd like to second (what my fellow long suffering dancesport parent) Elaine has written above, namely that sadly most EADA members are apathethic (and probably quite rightly so) about international dancesport politics. It's also very sad to see that little has changed in regard to the plight of English dancesport competitors. The primary reason why this is so, is IMO because of the continued existence of the poor excuse for a (self appointed) EADA President, namely David Corfield. He is and will always sadly be no match (in terms of dedication and hard work in the interests of the membership) for EADA's former Chairman Rita Thomas who always understood that the role of the EADA Chairman was to be the 'first among equals' as all chairmen should be and not to be the leader of a (self appointed by the President) 'executive committee'. May I also give my complete support and sympathies to Rachelle (Shell) as the next person who is attempting to modernise EADA and to make it more democratic i.e. to attempt push that rather large stone up that very steep hill only to see it role back down to the bottom again when it looks like you may be getting close to the top of the hill. I wish you the best of luck Rachelle as you will need it!
onyourtoes Joined on 12 Feb 2007 Total posts: 657	Re: EADA relaunch website Saturday, 20 June 2009 06:48 Elaine a very refreshing touch of good old "COMMON SENSE". I have long held the same opinion. IDSF has relevance to such a minor portion of the membership it is almost an irrelevance. The competitions which take place in England week after week are no thanks to IDSF and come to that EADA. They are through the efforts of those so called "EVIL professionals" trying to control and get rich from Amateurs. Kevin a very forthright and honest post and all credit to you. Few would argue with you I suspect. Shell is your silence the result of a "gagging order" from above? That would be a shame but par for the course.
shell Joined on 22 May 2007 Total posts: 17	Re: EADA relaunch website Saturday, 20 June 2009 10:08 No, only silence because I actually had the chance to go dancing yesterday! ;) Just to say the new webmaster is Ramen. We're still developing it but hanks for the positive comments and if you have suggestions please do drop me a PM. I believe David does do an excellent job in times which have become increasingly difficult in terms of government legislation and dancing politics and he has helped moved EADA forward over the past few years. I don't think we have ever had any other nominations from anyone else wishing to stand as President at the AGM? I agree our membership is diverse and we need to look at what all members want - for example, currently on our Forum there is a discussion about how we can do more for non-championship competitors. I also think that the Council would love the chance to work more closely with Professional organisations. I think the nature of dancesport in this country means it is very fragmented and this poses lots of challenges.
Tar&Feathers Joined on 20 Jun 2009 Total posts: 2	Re: EADA relaunch website Saturday, 20 June 2009 14:53 shell I don't think we have ever had any other nominations from anyone else wishing to stand as President at the AGM? I agree our membership is diverse and we need to look at what all members want - for example, currently on our Forum there is a discussion about how we can do more for non-championship competitors. ---- From the grapevine. To stand for President {what a pomopus title - who thought of it?} you have to meet certain criteria. To stand for Secretary you have to fill certain criteria. Once you sort through it all there are only 2 people who could possibly meet these conditions. Who thought them up? One thing the non-championship competitors do not need is IDSF.
shell Joined on 22 May 2007 Total posts: 17	Re: EADA relaunch website Saturday, 20 June 2009 15:23 Surely: "any full adult member in good standing, or Full life member, shall be eligible to serve on the Executive Committee"
Tar&Feathers Joined on 20 Jun 2009 Total posts: 2	Re: EADA relaunch website Sunday, 21 June 2009 06:14 shell Surely: "any full adult member in good standing, or Full life member, shall be eligible to serve on the Executive Committee" ---- ExecutiveCommittee maybe . You claim that NO conditions were applied to stand for President and Secretary?
Elaine Joined on 28 Jan 2003 Total posts: 144	Re: EADA relaunch website Sunday, 21 June 2009 21:57 Shell you could well be right that they would be "eligible" to serve on the Executive Committee but when the post of Secretary was last advertised for nominations for election there were without a doubt certain criteria detailed which probably 99.5% of the membership would be unable to meet!! For example you had to be available to attend at the EADA office on a daily basis. Given that the EADA office is in the grounds of the President/Secretary's home in Hampshire unless you just happened to live around the corner from them just this criteria alone would make it pretty much impossible for anyone else to stand for election to that post!! If my memory serves me correctly and I think that it does when the last election for the Presidential posiiton was held, it was published, either on the EADA Website or in the In Motion magazine that the President had decided that this was the last time that he would be standing for re-election and that he would be retiring at the end of this term of office. I am not sure when that is but this being the case then EADA will be needing a new volunteer to take over this role!
pink unicorn Joined on 14 May 2007 Total posts: 21	Re: EADA relaunch website Saturday, 27 June 2009 11:44 Elaine I think that the whole question of EADA's stance over the IDSF bans needs to be put into context in terms of the number of their members that are likely to be effected and therefore who may or may not have strong feelings about this matter. Although I do believe that it is very important that EADA take into account the views of its members I would happily bet a pound or two that the vast majority of their members don't really give two hoots or have much of an opinion about decisions made by the IDSF or EADA in relation to the IDSF policies. I don't know how many members EADA actually has but the percentage of those members who wish to compete internationally in IDSF comps or who are honoured with an invitation to an IDSF World or European Championship must surely be very small in relation to the overall membership. We are very lucky in England in that we have enough competitions held here throughout each year that EADA members can compete on a regular basis without having the need to travel abroad to take part in IDSF events. Add the current economic climate and the cost of such jaunts along with the fact that restrictions on Amatuers teaching means that the majority of English Amatuers are truly that in every sense of the word, having to rely on having a day job or family financial backing to enable them to compete at all means that we have very few couples who actually travel internationally to participate in IDSF events. So at the end of the day I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to learn that the view of the majority of EADA members would be that they arn't the least bit interested in international politics and that if it dosn't effect them personally then why worry about it?? ---- It is true that we do not want to get in to any politics!!! We just want to dance and not to have to take any sides!! My daughter and partner do enjoy competing abroad because we feel that the dancing is been judged on the day, and not judged for who you are or who you are not!!!!! She has returned with her partner few weeks ago from Spain where they won the Int Ballroom and made the final in Latin in Platja Daro. She is competing this weekend in the Irish Open where she will face more international couples. They are been considered by their teachers one of the best Junior couple in England but yet can't make finals in EADA comps! I let you wonder why!!